"Bach is inseparable from the words that he uses. He's a religious composer and his outlook on life is told to us in the cantatas. And even in the secular music, one has to embrace his worldview. No matter how the voice leading it is so wonderful or the counterpoint is so wonderful, it goes beyond itself. It tries to tell us a message and that message is usually complicated. It's not quite simple. So I think there's a lot more to Bach than the surface."